The spokesperson of the PSOE Xàbia, José Chulvi, requested in the plenary session "urgent measures to regulate cycling tourism on the Les Planes road." Chulvi pointed out that the increase in cyclists in the area is excessive, "which has generated a serious safety and overcrowding problem."
The highway of Les Planes, a narrow road with sharp curves and vegetation invading the road, crosses the Montgó Natural Park and connects two of the most populated towns in the region, Xàbia and Dénia. According to Chulvi, cycle tourism, although a sustainable and environmentally friendly activity, has become a product of massive influx that is affecting road safety and the daily lives of residents in the area, "up to 80 cyclists have been counted in the same stretch of time," added the socialist spokesperson.
The Socialist spokesperson compared the situation to what has happened in other tourist activities, such as paddle surfing and kayaking, which, although sustainable, have also suffered the effects of overcrowding. Likewise, the PSOE (Spanish Socialist Workers' Party) is asking the governing body to intervene to regulate this activity in the area, "in order to prevent mass tourism from harming residents and endangering road safety, and to verify whether the member Those who organize cycling routes in the area have the proper authorization."
Both the mayor, Rosa Cardona, as the councilor responsible for the area, juanlu cardona, has welcomed the proposal positively, committing to studying the situation.
Get rid of these fatties who pretend to be cyclists, they just annoy everyone.
the road IS FOR CARS AND THAT'S IT
Hahahahahahaha. Fat people, in August, at 3 in the afternoon, climbing the hill. Terrible.
Amen
It seems that kayaks are more annoying than jet skis, paddleboarders are more annoying than speedboats, and cyclists are more annoying than motorcycles. It's a world upside down. That said, given that people want to go out on bikes, why not build a bike path from Denia to Granadella? Guaranteed success.
You are not addressing the question of cyclists on Les Planes. That is a specific proposal and you are pontificating.
Yes I do, I proposed the construction of a bicycle lane from Denia to Granadella. Please learn spanish.
The truth is, it's very dangerous. They can get you into serious trouble in no time; climbing the Coll de Rates is impossible, for example. This needs to be regulated now.
The situation is unsustainable, dangerous, and not only a nuisance but also a financial drain on many (time, consumption), and it must be regulated. Not only on the Les Planes road, but throughout the surrounding area. Most of us who live here work, and if it takes us twice as long to travel by road from one place to another because we travel 20-30 minutes in a convoy, due to one or more groups and platoons of cyclists impeding traffic flow, the road is no longer fulfilling its function as a means of communication and transportation.
To prevent this from escalating, radical measures are unfortunately needed. Roads are not sports fields. Therefore, banning recreational cycling on weekdays would be a possibility. Alternatively, building cycling paths/lanes and having them paid for with a high tourist cycling tax, although this tax would be applied immediately and quite high.
Hehehe… We all know this road very well. Build a bike lane? Where? Between the car lanes and in both directions, like the one that runs from the port to the sandbank along the Mediterranean coast (in this case, just from the port to the sandbank)? Just thinking about it makes my blood boil…
It occurs to me… what if?
1; Bicycles in a platoon ride according to the rules for motorcycles. That is, in single file with space between them. For motorcycles, this is so they can brake without colliding. For bicycles, it would be so a car can rejoin if another vehicle comes along or if visibility is too reduced. I imagine that's a new regulation there. Now explain it to those who don't want to learn it.
2; Cyclists should not be allowed access to this road during normal commute or school hours. That would have to be fixed…
3; This just occurred to me while I was writing this to you. The most feasible option, even though it's not entirely in the driver's favor, is to exit a little earlier and take the Jesús Pobre road. And that could be a very good solution, as long as the gas station gives you a discount, or the city council gives you a voucher for these, since they can't resolve this dilemma.
As they say, the road belongs to everyone. And since there are all kinds of people in this world, including those who refuse to be in the way or facilitate the flow of traffic without being in the way... it's best to be prepared and mentally prepared for the possibility of being "lucky" enough to be caught by a non-professional pack of happy cyclists, who take to the road as if no one else were there.
And I say, when will the same obligations for cyclists as for the rest of road users,
If you want to go on the road with a motor vehicle, you have to demonstrate technical knowledge, not like a bike, and you can go wherever you want, whether or not you are technically and physically prepared, because they do not have a license with the category of areas to which they can access, for example you are a madman with the bike, on the flat, and if I catch you trying to go up a hill, club and stale bread, when you demonstrate your preparation, we will talk about types of hills, and so you will see how half of them disappear from the hilly areas and do not bother anyone, it is enough that the rest of us have to pay for their days of partying and then get drunk in the bar at lunchtime, thanks to the fact that current bikes with hundreds of sprockets, and two crowns, go up a wall, but those of us who are overweight, do not even go downwind, and do not move from the spot, and the others holding on behind, and on the hills as long as they are. You arrive at the top with a smell of scorching clutch that no one can breathe inside the car! SO, get your cyclist's license and take the test on a bike with one sprocket and one crown, no modern bikes, and show where you can ride, just like the rest of the road users.
To get a tourist bike license, you have to crawl through a tunnel of barbed-wire arches... That's where your endurance and ability will be seen... To take a bike on a spring day, to go on an errand, to go eco-friendly, you don't need a license or anything...
Two people, one in a car and one on a bike... why should the one driving have more rights?
In any case, this proposal is a waste of time. The City Council can't do anything about that road, and they're not going to open the issue of this road if it doesn't, you if you don't, in the entire Community.
Noise.
If you have to ask that question, that is the reason why cyclists should be banned on Les Plannes. It just needs a notice at the entrance to say 'No Cycling', just as we have one now to warn motorists about cyclists. It is a dangerous place for car drivers – more so for cyclists.
Sonia, I think you misunderstood Panchut's message. I suggest you learn Spanish first and then comment on a Spanish-speaking outlet.
Among other things, because you pay road tax and insurance.
Cycling should be banned altogether on Les Planes. It is totally unsuitable for use as a cycle track – which is what is happening. There are no verges, the road is full of sharp bends, it is impossible for drivers to pass them – dangerous when they are tempted to try – and in some places the barrier is lower than bicycle saddles.
You're wrong. Cars need to be patient. The road belongs to everyone. On the plain, there are no sidewalks or bike lanes, so anyone can ride on the road. Bikes, pedestrians, horses. If you're in a hurry, take the highway.
And where is the Jávea to Dénia highway? 🤪🤡
Pscience!
I don't understand how Chulvi is asking for things he could have done himself for 12 years, when this problem didn't already exist during his three terms in office? The person who should least be speaking always speaks. And if you're right, where are they going to put parking spaces for them to take photos and all the nonsense Chulvi is proposing to do on the news?
I agree that something should be done to limit cyclists off this main road.
Either make them ride in certain hours, or only single file.
However I also think the new wooden structures on the Javea beach are an atrocity and spoil the view. Was anyone asking the people of Javea before they were built? There are ways of conserving sites on the beach without heavy handed intervention, that completely destroys it's integrity as a wild natural place.
What about the rights of pedestrians walking along the Arenal DODGING the racing bikes and scooters, also in front of the restaurants and at La Grava pedestrianized areas should be for Pedestrians NOT Racing cyclists.DENIA has it right, Marques de Campo… Pedestrians, tunnel under the castle… Pedestrians Beach front…. Pedestrians ALL PAVEMENTS…PEDSTRIANS, MAKE JAVEA SAFE.
What about the rights of pedestrians walking along the Arenal, dodging bicycles and racing scooters, also in front of restaurants and in the pedestrian areas of La Grava, should they be for pedestrians, NOT racing cyclists? DENIA is right, Marqués de Campo... Only pedestrians, tunnel under the castle... Only pedestrians in front of the beach... Only pedestrians, ALL pavements... Only pedestrians,
LET'S MAKE JÁVEA A SAFE PLACE.
Regular? What they should do is ban it. That road isn't suitable for bicycles; there's no shoulder. Look at the Highway Code.
When there's no shoulder on a road, everyone shares the same space: pedestrians, cyclists, cars. So you have to adapt your speed. It's what it is. If you're driving, you leave home a little early, and that's it.